MC - Methyl Cellulose
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: MC - Methyl Cellulose Reply with quote   

searched for a while but could not find a post with mc in it, my question is how to spell the word properly
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Try with that : methyl cellulose.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

thanks a lot

now, i'm just curious, why would i use mc over spray glue, what are the benifits, thanks for any responce in advance
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

You use methyl cellulose because it seeps into and becomes part of the paper. All spray glue does is stick two sheets together.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Once you use methyl celluose, you never go back Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

is it widely available or quite rare to get (in the uk) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

It isn't exactly easy to come by, even where I live, but I'm definately glad that I managed to find some Very Happy that stuff is amazing!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

thanks a ton, i just have one more question while i'm at it, as i read through other forums with info on htis product it almost seemed like they glued two sheets of tissue together with out any tin foil inbetween, is that what is happening or is it just a misunderstanding?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Usually, tissue paper is glued together with tin foil in between, but they never use MC to glue the them together, usually spray glue or a glue stick is used.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

I usually purchase mine online from The Chemistry Store.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

If you buy EVERYTHING online, when will you ever leave the house or get any exercise? You'll get fat and pale, like a giant lump of pizza dough.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

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You'll get fat and pale, like a giant lump of pizza dough.

did you hack my webcam?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

You can also buy exercise equipment online... as well as sessions with trainers !

But, if that is a problem, I believe that Hideo Komatsu has the solution:
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

zxop9 wrote:
thanks a ton, i just have one more question while i'm at it, as i read through other forums with info on htis product it almost seemed like they glued two sheets of tissue together with out any tin foil inbetween, is that what is happening or is it just a misunderstanding?


YES!! If you use MC you NEVER use foil (MC doesn't stick to foil). The point of MC is for backcoating. It allows you to stick two thin sheets together, making one, often with different colors on each side. It also adds sizing, which gices the paper more ability to hold shape. Typically it's been used for nice papers.

However a fairly recent trend has been using MC to stick two sheets of tissue paper together. This is a real 2+2=7 situation. The resulting paper is thick enough that it can be folded (but still quite thin), crisp, holds a crease, can have a crease reversed, holds its shape well, etc. The only problems really are that tissue paper is not PH-balanced ("acid-free") and has unstable dyes, so after a number of years your works may erode, just like tissue-foil ones.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

I tried out double tissue for the first time recently (I folded Bahamut by the way), and I had less than perfect results. I found that creases are still difficult to reverse and it was hard to work with since it was so thin. I am not used to using large, thin sheets though, so that might be it too. I didn't wet-fold it, but it was still a pain. I will have to try it again and see if I get better results.
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