Help with Brian Chan Attack of the Kraken!!!

Finward · Post by **Finward** » April 15th, 2007, 2:45 am

Hi everybody. Ive been reading the messages in this forum for a while, and ive decided to enter the discussiÃ³n. I need some help with amazing Brian chan kraken. ive tried to collapse the cp but, even when the kraken section is somehow easy, the ship section, especially the sails section, its a bit far from my understanding.
Someone has folded it???
http://chosetec.darkclan.net/origami/kr ... ken_CP.jpg

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » April 15th, 2007, 12:40 pm

I've never seen anyone fold it on the forum... Is this you first CP? Because this is highly not reccomended for a first CP! (I don't think I could fold it yet and I've folded... quite a few)

Finward · Post by **Finward** » April 16th, 2007, 1:11 am

Hi Â¿Cupcake? Whell, this is not my first CP after all, and i would dare to say that im not a beginner in this subject.

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » April 16th, 2007, 1:40 am

Hmm... well, I guess I'll have to try folding it or something.
However, it might not be that hard! Try folding it, it may be easier than it looks. I can start by telling you that you need to divide the paper into 7ths

origamimasterjared · Post by **origamimasterjared** » April 16th, 2007, 2:41 am

Nope, doesn't look like 7ths. 9ths maybe, but not 7ths.

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » April 16th, 2007, 10:42 am

7ths from top to bottom, I meant

Post by **Daydreamer** » April 16th, 2007, 11:29 am

It's still 9ths... the CP is based on a 36x36 grid to be more exact.

[img]http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4241/krakencptg0.jpg[/img]

From what I've heard you will get a bunch of pleated layers sticking out from the side of the ship after you have collapsed the ship. Those layers can be formed to all kinds of different stuff.

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » April 16th, 2007, 9:12 pm

I was doing 4+4+1= 7... I'll have to brush up on my addition.

origamimasterjared · Post by **origamimasterjared** » April 16th, 2007, 9:14 pm

Cupcake wrote: I was doing 4+4+1= 7... I'll have to brush up on my addition.

Ever thought of being a math major?

We math majors cannot add 1+1=2.

Finward · Post by **Finward** » April 17th, 2007, 11:08 pm

Excuse me, but ive already understood that part. In fact, I had somehow realized where are the reference points. My great problem is with the flap arrangment. I think the cp should collapse somehow like this:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_rgy-PIm7IMc/RiV ... n_CP+2.JPG
But after the collapse i guess that the result looks like this:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_rgy-PIm7IMc/RiV ... Dibujo.JPG
I once tried it, and i fall in this mistake. Do you know where im wrong?
(about the images, forgive me, but they refused to work)

perrosaurio · Post by **perrosaurio** » April 18th, 2007, 3:36 pm

normally images from blogger server refuses to work in forums, that's the reason because I normally use Imageshack.

regards
(and about the kraken, I'm affraid I'm still miles away

)

origamimasterjared · Post by **origamimasterjared** » April 19th, 2007, 8:58 am

Actually, it turns out that this CP is not too difficult. The complete figure is, but the crease pattern is fairly easy once you know that you are working with 9ths.

As you may have noticed, there are 5 creases intersecting there, thus there are missing creases. (But they're small and not overly important. Just flatten the paper when you have those other 5 creases in, and it should happen naturally.)

For the two big sails, it's pretty obvious where they are. They develop the pleats automatically due to all the rabbit ear things going down the sides. Once you have it all collapsed you will notice that the sails are facing opposite directions, and you will have to perform a move similar to the head in David Brill's rhinoceros. This will involve making two valley folds, making the sail flaps considerably shorter. There are also a couple of other small sails.

I would post pictures, but I attempted to fold from a six inch square of origami paper. This piece is interesting, but not something I intend to fold again.

Good luck!

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » April 21st, 2007, 6:01 pm

Hmm. Is there a way to divide a paper into 9ths without having to measure or anything (just with folding)?

Joe the white · Post by **Joe the white** » April 21st, 2007, 6:48 pm

Fold into thirds, then each third into thirds.

Edit: Well, that explanation will only help if you can fold into thirds well without aid, I can usually eye it correctly on the first try 9 times out of 10. Making tri-fold brochures helps, my coworkers at the library always send me folding jobs ;p.

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » April 22nd, 2007, 6:08 pm

Hmm... I didn't think about that, thanks